The thinking behind the buildings.

A podcast featuring the developers, operators, and commercial real estate professionals shaping the cities they live and work in.

A man with long dark hair and a beard, sitting at a desk with a computer and microphone, gesturing with his hand. The background features a wall decorated with various framed posters and artwork, including a skull with a colorful hat, a motorcycle, and beach scenes. There is a ring light in the foreground, a small potted plant, and some figurines on the desk.

The projects that truly succeed tend to come from people who can hold the pro forma and the community in the same hand.

That tension is the subject of this series. Each episode, Matt Dean, co-founder and CEO of Dean&Co., sits down with developers, operators, and other commercial real estate professionals for candid conversations about the thesis behind a deal, the messy middle of the process, and where the built environment goes from here.

Some of these projects are finished. Some are still in the ground. All of the conversations are honest.

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